Violating Pesticide Laws In British Columbia – Violator-Superintendents Provoked Government Audits Against Golf Industry – Bad-Boys Will See What Happens When They Come For You – 2019 06 00


 

 

 

Overview    Summary

 

Violator-Superintendents Provoked
Government Industry-Wide Audits

 

See What Happens When They Come For You

 

 

Massive Violations By Bad-Boy Golf Superintendents    Government officials in British Columbia ( BC ) indicate that the majority of golf course superintendents are massively violating provincial pesticide laws and are overwhelmingly non-compliant with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations.  According to officials, out of 318 golf courses, 192 DID NOT hold valid pesticide use licences.  Clearly, the golf industry has a continuous culture of deception in British Columbia.  The professionalism of these bad-boy-superintendent-violators who operate the offending golf courses is being seriously questioned. 

 

Bad-Boys Of Audubon Golf    The majority of the golf courses that are certified-members of « The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf » are either non-licensed, out-of-compliance, or both    these hypocritical golf courses pretend to be more environmentally-conscious when, in fact, their superintendents massively violate pesticide laws.  Their credibility is in doubt. 

 

Bad-Boy-Activists In The Golf Industry    The majority of golf courses that are managed by so-called « activist-superintendents » are also out-of-compliance with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations    these hypocritical activists needlessly alarm and enrage the public by spreading highly-inaccurate pesticide-hating propaganda.  Their credibility is non-existent. 

 

Violator-Superintendents Provoked Government Industry-Wide Audits    BC government officials have indicated that they will continue to conduct compliance audits-inspections of golf courses, including those that have never been inspected.  In other words, they will be conducting a golf-industry-wide government AUDIT because of BC’s violator-superintendent.  Essentially, these bastжrd have attracted the wrath of the government apparatus against the ENTIRE golf industry.  Observers note that these bad-boys deserve to be EXPELLED from trade associations like Western Canada Turfgrass Association ( WCTA ) and Canadian Golf Superintendents Association ( CGSA ).  

 

Superintendents Fail To Read Library    Violator-superintendents lie and cheat about licensing and complying with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations despite a large, but evidently under-used, « Library Of BC Guidance Material » furnished by the government of British Columbia.  Their good will is in doubt.   

 

See What Happens When They Come For You    If bad-boy golf course superintendents can’t be good examples, then they’ll just have to serve as horrible warnings.  Will government ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS be necessary against those who violate pesticide laws ?!?! 

 

For more information, read the segments below     

 

 

 

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June 2019

 

BC Ministry of Environment & Climate Change Strategy

 

Communication With Western Canada Turfgrass Association

 

Selected And Adapted Excerpts

 

References 

 

Majority Of BC Golf Courses Non-Compliant With New IPM Rules — WCTA News

 

Golf Course Compliance Audit — Official Document — Government Of British Columbia

 

Golf Course Compliance Audit — Official Document — Appendix A — Government Of British Columbia

 

 

 

 

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Violating Pesticide Laws In British Columbia    Report By Ministry Of Environment & Climate Change Strategy

 

Amended IPM Regulations

 

 

In December 2015, the BC Ministry of Environment & Climate Change Strategy AMENDED the IPM Regulations. 

 

The AMENDMENTS came into force on July 1st, 2016, which gave those affected time to come into compliance [ and avoid violation of pesticide law ]. 

 

These AMENDMENTS included changes to the requirements for the use of pesticides on landscaped areas of private land, including most golf courses. 

 

The requirements include   

 

   Having a pesticide use LICENCE and certified applicators on staff for application of non-excluded pesticides, 

 

   Keeping a record of each pesticide application and submitting an annual summary of pesticide use to the ministry. 

 

   Notifying the public of pesticide applications.  

 

   Following the [ failed ] principles of IPM. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Bad Integrated Pest Management ». 

 

 

 

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Violating Pesticide Laws In British Columbia    Report By Ministry Of Environment & Climate Change Strategy

 

Initial Audits Of BC Golf Courses

 

 

Beginning in June 2017, government officials at BC Ministry of Environment and Climate Change Strategy conducted a COMPLIANCE AUDITS of golf courses. 

 

These AUDITS were to ensure that the golf industry COMPLIED with the environmental and human health protection requirements outlined in the Integrated Pest Management Act and Regulations. 

 

In 2016, BC’s Amended IPM Regulations INCREASED REQUIREMENTS for golf courses using pesticides in the following areas   

 

   Licensing, Training, & Certification For Pesticide Applicators. 

 

   Record Keeping. 

 

   Posting Of Notification Of Pesticide Use. 

 

   Using The [ Failed ] Principles Of IPM. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Bad Integrated Pest Management ». 

 

 

Approximately 318 BC golf courses were identified, however only 126 of these courses held valid pesticide use LICENCES. 

 

Not all golf courses were aware of the amendments to BC’s Amended IPM Regulations, and therefore, some had likely not yet obtained LICENCES. 

 

Therefore, BC government officials planned INDUSTRY-WIDE AUDIT-INSPECTIONS of both golf courses that held valid LICENCES, as well as golf courses that did NOT hold valid LICENCES ( but were likely to be using pesticides as part of their turf management programs ). 

 

BC government officials completed 37 AUDITS-INSPECTIONS between June 6 and November 1, 2017 representing approximately 12 per cent of golf courses, in almost all regions of the province. 

 

20 AUDITS were of LICENSED golf courses, and 17 AUDITS were of UNLICENSED golf courses. 

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Massive Violations By Bad-Boy
Golf Superintendents

 

 

 

Summary 

 

Government officials indicate that the majority of golf course superintendents are massively violating provincial pesticide laws and are overwhelmingly non-compliant with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations. 

 

Out of 318 golf courses, 192 DID NOT hold valid pesticide use LICENCES. 

 

Clearly, the golf industry has a continuous culture of deception in British Columbia. 

 

The professionalism of the bad-boy-superintendent-violators who operate the offending golf courses is being seriously questioned. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Violator-Superintendents Provoked Government Industry-Wide Audits ». 

 

 

 

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Violating Pesticide Laws In British Columbia    Report By Ministry Of Environment & Climate Change Strategy

 

Massive Violations By Bad-Boy Superintendents

 

 

Some bad news   

 

   68 per cent of golf courses were OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE with at least one aspect of BC’s Amended IPM Regulations, and were issued an advisory of non-compliance. 

 

   Of the 17 NON-LICENSED golf courses inspected, 65 per cent were OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE with at least one aspect of BC’s Amended IPM Regulations. 

 

   Of the 20 LICENSED golf courses inspected, 70 per cent were OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE with at least one aspect of BC’s Amended IPM Regulations. 

 

All non-compliant golf courses received an advisory of non-compliance, which is the lowest level of enforcement response.

 

This in part reflects the fact that non-compliances were relatively minor in nature and that this industry is still adjusting to BC’s Amended IPM Regulations. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Violator-Superintendents Provoked Government Industry-Wide Audits ». 

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

More Massive Violations By
Bad-Boy Golf Superintendents

 

 

 

Summary 

 

   Bad-Boys Of Audubon Golf    80 per cent of the golf courses that were certified-members of « The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf » were either NON-LICENSED, OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE, or both.  These hypocritical golf courses allege doing the right thing by being much more environmentally-aware and environmentally-conscious when, in fact, they massively violate pesticide laws. 

 

   Bad-Boy Activists In The Golf Industry    80 per cent of the golf courses that were managed by so-called « activist-superintendents » were OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE, but ALL were LICENSED.  These hypocritical activists needlessly alarm and enrage the public by spreading highly-inaccurate pesticide-hating propaganda. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Violator-Superintendents Provoked Government Industry-Wide Audits ». 

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

See What Happens When
They Come For You

 

 

Summary 

 

Will government ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS be necessary against golf course superintendents who violate pesticide laws ?!?! 

 

Violator-superintendents are MORE VULNERABLE than they realize. 

 

We shall see what happens when government officials come for them. 

 

BC government officials are very much aware of « Bad-Boys » in other jurisdictions, and the ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS taken against them. 

 

These jurisdictions include North Carolina, Ontario, and Quebec. 

 

Violator-superintendents fail to understand that the current party in power in BC has a history of operatives that hate & despise the golf industry.  

 

Government officials do not require much motivation to against violator-superintendents. 

 

These officials are keenly aware of the MASSIVE VIOLATIONS by violator-superintendents, which confirms a wide-spread and flagrant disregard of pesticide laws, as well as a continuous culture of deception. 

 

The violator-superintendents themselves may have to shoulder the entire burden of responsibility for their VIOLATIONS, as seen in jurisdictions outside of British Columbia. 

 

 

North Carolina 

 

BCs violator-superintendents must bear in mind that, in North Carolina, HORRIFIC FINES have been imposed specifically against« Bad-Boy » SUPERINTENDENT-EMPLOYEES who violate state pesticide laws. 

 

Fines are NOT being imposed against the golf course that they worked for. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Bad-Boys In North Carolina ». 

 

 

Ontario 

 

Additionally, in Ontario, HORRIFIC FINES have been specifically levied against lawn care EMPLOYEES who performed illegal pesticide applications, reaching $20,000 to $22,500. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Bad-Boys In Ontario ». 

 

 

Lawn Care Industry 

 

BC’s violator-superintendents are not alone. 

 

Blatant disregard for pesticide laws has also been documented with the « Bad-Boys » of the LAWN CARE INDUSTRY. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Bad-Boys Of The Lawn Care Industry ». 

 

 

Quebec 

 

In Quebec, audit-inspections have been conducted against « Bad-Boy » lawn care businesses that violated federal pesticide laws, with ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS precipitating HORRIFIC FINES between $4000 and $8000. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Bad-Boys In Quebec ». 

 

 

British Columbia 

 

Again, BC government officials are very much aware of « Bad-Boys » in other jurisdictions, and the effectiveness of ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS that will serve as HORRIBLE WARNINGS for other violators. 

 

Again, we shall see what happens when government officials come for BC’s violator-superintendents. 

 

 

 

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Violating Pesticide Laws In British Columbia    Report By Ministry Of Environment & Climate Change Strategy

 

Superintendents Who Are Compliant

 

 

The good news   

 

In 2017, the BC government’s « Annual Summary of Pesticide Use » was completed by 93 per cent of superintendents at golf courses that held valid pesticide use LICENCES.  

 

This summary generally confirmed the information provided by the superintendents interviewed regarding pesticide use targets. 

 

LICENSED golf courses had HIGH COMPLIANCE ( greater than 70 per cent ) for record-keeping and notification requirements. 

 

Remarkably, LICENSED golf courses had 100 per cent COMPLIANCE for BC’s IPM Regulations. 

 

This demonstrates strong and ingrained IPM practices across the golf industry.  [ ?!?! ] 

 

 

[  Sadly, IPM is nonsense and does not work    see next segment. ]

 

 

Also see later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – List Of BC Golf Courses That DO NOT Violate Pesticide Laws ». 

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

IPM Does Not Work

 

 

Summary 

 

Unfortunately, IPM is #@!!% nonsense and does not work. 

 

IPM is INAPPROPRIATE for the golf industry. 

 

The pesticide-free-version of IPM will NOT suppress damaging pest populations to an acceptable level. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Bad Integrated Pest Management ». 

 

 

 

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Violating Pesticide Laws In British Columbia    Report By Ministry Of Environment & Climate Change Strategy

 

Widening To Industry-Wide Audits

 

 

BC government officials will WIDEN the AUDITS of golf courses, with a focus on 

 

   Golf courses found to be OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE [ which represent the MAJORITY in BC ] during INITIAL AUDITS

 

   Those that have never been inspected before [ i.e. the remainder of the ENTIRE golf industry ]. 

 

All AUDITS and ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS conducted will be conducted as per « Compliance & Enforcement Policy & Procedures ». 

 

The INITIAL AUDITS conducted in 2017 revealed that many golf superintendents were aware of the changes, and had taken the appropriate steps to ensure compliance. 

 

However, a number of golf superintendents were not aware of BC’s Amended IPM Regulations [ ?!?! ], indicating the need for ongoing outreach and compliance activities. 

 

 

[ See next segment. ] 

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Violator-Superintendents Provoked
Government Industry-Wide Audits

 

 

Summary 

 

In other words, violator-superintendents have attracted the ire of the government apparatus on the ENTIRE golf industry. 

 

These bastжrds deserve to be EXPELLED from both Western Canada Turfgrass Association ( WCTA ) and Canadian Golf Superintendents Association ( CGSA ). 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Violator-Superintendents Provoked Government Industry-Wide Audits ». 

 

 

 

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Violating Pesticide Laws In British Columbia    Report By Ministry Of Environment & Climate Change Strategy

 

Failed Attempts To Inform Superintendents

 

 

In a [ failed ] effort to ensure golf superintendents could come into compliance with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations, government officials developed guidance material that was published on the ministry web-site [ « Background Information – Library Of BC Guidance Material » ]. 

 

Government officials also made presentations to superintendents [ to no avail ] at conferences in 2015, 2016, and 2017. 

 

According to officials, trade associations have been instrumental in helping to communicate BC’s Amended IPM Regulations to their members.  [ ?!?! ] 

 

These officials wished to thank these trade associations for their on-going promotional efforts to ensure compliance.  [ ?!?! ]

 

They hope that golf superintendents are committed to continual improvement in IPM techniques. 

 

A major revision is underway for the manual entitled « IPM for Turfgrass Manager : A Guide To Disease, Insect, and Weed Management in BC » by a BC Allied Golf Association [ a.k.a. the FAILED Western Canada Turfgrass Association ]. 

 

 

[ See the next two segments. ] 

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Violator-Superintendents Have
A Limited Attention Span

 

 

Summary 

 

Violator-superintendents lie & cheat about licensing & complying with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations despite information furnished by the government. 

 

Their good will is in doubt.   

 

We can rest assured that violator-superintendents would have paid MORE ATTENTION to invitations by trade associations to golf tournaments at high-end clubs, or to international conferences held at exotic locations. 

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – Library Of BC Guidance Material ». 

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

WCTA Fails As A Trade Association

 

 

Summary 

 

WCTA leaders FAIL to ensure that their member-golf-courses DO NOT VIOLATE pesticide laws. 

 

Perhaps we cannot ascribe malice to WCTA leaders which adequately be explained by incompetence. 

 

Otherwise, it can be concluded that its leaders operate with their heads up their bжtts.  

 

 

See later segment entitled     

 

« Background Information – The Failure Of WCTA ». 

 

 

 

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More Background Information

 

 

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Violator-Superintendents Provoked
Government Industry-Wide Audits

 

See What Happens When They Come For You

 

 

Violators Are Non-Licensed For Pesticide
Use And⁄Or Out-Of-Compliance With
BC’s Amended IPM Regulations

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

BC government officials have reported that the MAJORITY of golf course superintendents are MASSIVELY VIOLATING provincial pesticide laws and are OVERWHELMINGLY NON-COMPLIANT with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations. 

 

According to officials, out of 318 golf courses, 192 DID NOT hold valid pesticide use LICENCES. 

 

Clearly, the golf industry has a continuous culture of deception in British Columbia. 

 

The professionalism of the bad-boy-superintendent-violators who operate the offending golf courses is being seriously questioned. 

 

Consequently, BC government officials have indicated that they will conduct AUDITS of ALL golf courses, including those that have never been inspected. 

 

In other words, they will be conducting an INDUSTRY-WIDE AUDITS. 

 

Essentially, violator-superintendents have PROVOKED the wrath of the government apparatus against the ENTIRE golf industry.

 

Observers have noted that these superintendent-bastжrds deserve to be EXPELLED from both Western Canada Turfgrass Association ( WCTA ) and Canadian Golf Superintendents Association ( CGSA ).  

 

If violator-superintendent can’t be good examples, then they must have to serve as horrible warnings. 

 

 

 

List Of BC violators of pesticide laws   

 

 

Aberdeen Glen Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Alder Hills Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Aspen Grove Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Beach Grove Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Big Sky Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Blue Ocean Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Operated By « Activist-Superintendent »  https://wp.me/p1jq40-bxv  

 

 

Comox Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Crown Isle Resort & Golf Community

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out Of Compliance

 

 

Eaglequest Golf At Coyote Creek

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Gallagher’s Canyon Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Gleneagles Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Certified Member-Club Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf   https://wp.me/p1jq40-ctq  

 

 

Guildford Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed But In-Compliance

 

 

Langara Golf Course    Vancouver Parks Board

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

Certified Member-Club Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf   https://wp.me/p1jq40-ctq  

 

 

Langley Golf Centre

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Ledgeview Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Links Of Maggie May

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed But In-Compliance

 

 

Longlands Par 3 Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Metchosin Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed But In-Compliance

 

 

Mountain Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Mulligans Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed But In-Compliance

 

 

Nanaimo Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Ness Woods Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed But In-Compliance

 

 

Newlands Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Pender Harbour Golf Club Society

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Operated By « Activist-Superintendent »  https://wp.me/p1jq40-bxv  

 

 

Point Grey Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

Certified Member-Club Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf   https://wp.me/p1jq40-ctq  

 

 

Penticton Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Sequoia Springs Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Squamish Valley Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Sunshine Coast Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Operated By « Activist-Superintendent »   https://wp.me/p1jq40-bxv  

 

 

The Summerland Golf Society

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

 

Whistler Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Certified Member-Club Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf   https://wp.me/p1jq40-ctq  

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

List Of BC Golf Courses That
DO NOT Violate Pesticide Laws

 

 

Congratulations To Superintendents Who Are
Licensed For Pesticide Use & In-Compliance
With BC’s Amended IPM Regulations

 

 

 

List of BC golf courses that comply with pesticide laws   

 

 

Castlegar Golf Club

 

Cordova Bay Golf Course

 

Kettle Valley Golf Club

 

Nicklaus North

 

Storey Creek Golf & Recreation Society

 

The Meadows At Pemberton

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Library Of BC Guidance Material

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

Violator-golf-superintendents lie & cheat about licensing & complying with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations despite a large, but evidently under-used, « Library Of BC Guidance Material » furnished by the government of British Columbia. 

 

Their good will is in doubt.   

 

We can rest assured that violator-superintendents would have paid more attention to invitations by trade associations to golf tournaments at high-end clubs, or to international conferences held at exotic locations. 

 

 

 

Explore the following links to the Library Of BC Guidance Material 

 

 

Japanese Beetle Pest Alert

 

Administrative Officer 24 IPM

 

IPM Compliance Inspection Report

 

Golf Course Compliance Audit

 

Golf Course Compliance Audit — Appendix A

 

The Rules Have Changed For Industrial Users

 

The Rules Have Changed — Guide For Golf Courses, Gardens, & Cemeteries

 

Policy Intentions Paper

 

Summary Comments

 

Wetland Ways — Recreational Activities

 

Cosmetic Use Of Pesticides — Public Consultation Paper

 

Pesticide Regulations & Consultations

 

Pest Management — BC Vegetable Production Guide

 

Pest Management — BC Berry Production Guide

 

Landscape & Structural Pest Control

 

Integrated Pest Management For Invasive Species

 

Integrated Pest Management

 

Golf Course Application Requirements List

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

The Failure Of WCTA

 

 

WCTA Fails To Ensure That Its Member-
Superintendents Do Not Violate Pesticide Laws

 

Industry-Wide Audits Provoked

By Violator-Superintendents

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

Western Canada Turfgrass Association ( WCTA ) FAILS as a trade association. 

 

WCTA represents the turf management profession, which includes golf course superintendents, assistant superintendents, equipment technicians, municipalities, lawn care businesses, and others, in Western Canada, particularly in British Columbia. 

 

WCTA currently has 700 members, with DWINDLING golf industry participation. 

 

The WCTA mission is to promote and support the turf management profession, even though its leadership remains idle on so many important issues. 

 

The leaders of WCTA are pompous and arrogant regarding the credibility, sophistication, and reliabillity of its trade association. 

 

In reality, WCTA is in a sad state of affairs. 

 

The MAJORITY of its member-golf-superintendents VIOLATE provincial pesticide laws, with violators either NON-LICENSED, OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE, or both. 

 

As a result, these violators have PROVOKED the AUDITS launched against the ENTIRE golf industry. 

 

WCTA is expected to EXPEL violator-superintendent from its trade association. 

 

If these violators are NOT EXPELLED, then WCTA FAILS to ensure that its member-superintendents DO NOT violate pesticide laws. 

 

At the very least, WCTA must demand government ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS against superintendents who violate pesticide laws. 

 

If violator-superintendents can’t be good examples, then they must  serve as horrible warnings. 

 

 

 

Explore the following links   

 

 

The Failure Of Western Canada Turfgrass Association LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2019/06/26/the-failures-of-western-canada-turfgrass-association/

 

 

Even More Violations — The Complete Media History Of Violations LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/violations-the-complete-media-history/

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Bad-Boys In North Carolina

 

See What Happens When They Come For You 

 

 

Horrific Fines Have Been Imposed Against Golf Course
Superintendents Who Violated State Pesticide Laws

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

Were government ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS and HORRIFIC FINES necessary against golf course superintendents who violated state pesticide laws in North Carolina ?!?! 

 

HORRIFIC FINES were imposed specifically against EMPLOYEE-SUPERINTENDENTS, and not against the golf course that they worked for. 

 

In North Carolina, superintendents who have been found in violation of state pesticide laws because of the illegal applications of pest control products. 

 

The golf course businesses that they worked for were left unscathed. 

 

Superintendents defied the label directions at three golf facilities.  ( See list below. ) 

 

Why bother with legal and registered label directions when you can lie and cheat ?!?! 

 

$800 fines were levied against them, and these FINES have been considered HORRIFIC because they were imposed specifically against EMPLOYEE-SUPERINTENDENTS, and NOT against the golf facility that they worked for. 

 

Traditionally, throughout North America, FINES have been levied against the business, and NOT against the employees. 

 

Observers have asked    if these superintendents cannot act as good examples, then they will have to serve as horrible warnings. 

 

All illegal violations of pesticide laws must come to an end, forever. 

 

Nonetheless, if some golf course superintendents can’t be good examples, then they’ll just have to serve as horrible warnings. 

 

 

 

List of golf courses with violator-superintendents in North Carolina   

 

 

Leopard’s Chase Golf Course

 

Lion’s Paw Golf Course

 

Panther Run Golf Course

 

 

 

Explore the following link   

 

 

Violating State Law In North Carolina — Horrific Fines Against Golf Course Superintendents LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2018/09/09/violating-state-law-horrific-fines-against-golf-course-superintendents-in-north-carolina-2018-07-31/

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Bad-Boys In Quebec

 

See What Happens When They Come For You 

 

 

Horrific Fines Have Been Imposed Against
Lawn Care
Companies That Violated Federal
Law With The Illegal Use Of Pesticides

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

Were government ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS and HORRIFIC FINES necessary against lawn care businesses that violated federal pesticide laws in Quebec ?!?! 

 

Some businesses have lied & cheated with pest control products that have either been withdrawn from the market, or could only be applied on specified food crops in the agriculture industry. 

 

These products were NOT registered for use in the urban landscape. 

 

After audit-inspections, government officials concluded that several companies violated the federal Pest Control Products Act.  ( See list below. ) 

 

Notices of violation were issued to each of these businesses, with HORRIFIC FINES between $4000 and $8000, for using products in ways that were contrary to label instructions. 

 

Observers have asked    if these lawn care companies cannot act as good examples, then they will have to serve as horrible warnings. 

 

All illegal violations of pesticide laws must come to an end, forever. 

 

 

 

List of violator-lawn-care-businesses in Quebec   

 

 

Allaire et Fils

 

Entreprise Demers 4 Saisons

 

Entretien de Pelouses Plus

 

Entretien Rémi Fortier

 

Extermination et Fertilisation Poirier

 

Fertilisation du Nord

 

Les Enterprises M Marion

 

Pelouse Santé

 

Serge Jodoin Paysagiste

 

Weed Man Laurentides-Lanaudiėre 

 

 

 

Explore the following link   

 

 

Violating Federal Law In Quebec — Horrific Fines Against Lawn Care Companies LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2018/09/09/violating-state-law-horrific-fines-against-golf-course-superintendents-in-north-carolina-2018-07-31/

 

 

Violating Federal Law In Quebec — Horrific Fines Against Lawn Care Companies — The Complete Media Library Of Horrific Fines LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/horrific-arbitrary-stunningly-debilitating-fines/

 

 

Violating Provincial Law In Quebec– Horrific Fines Against Lawn Care Companies — The Complete Media History Of Violations LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/violations-the-complete-media-history/

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Bad-Boys In Ontario

 

See What Happens When They Come For You 

 

 

Horrific Fines Have Been Imposed Against
Lawn Care
Companies That Violated Provincial
Law With The Use Of Prohibited Pesticides

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

Liberal government officials in Ontario have been despicable with their ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. 

 

Ontario’s HORRIFIC FINES are abusive, arbitrary, stunningly debilitating, prejudicial, and brutal punishments against businesses that are being victimized for using federally-approved products that are scientifically-safe. 

 

From 2009 to 2018, Ontario’s fines have been out-of-proportion with the seriousness of the violations.  ( See list below. ) 

 

Fines have also been imposed specifically against EMPLOYEES, and the lawn care businesses that they worked for have remained unscathed. 

 

Ontario fines specifically against lawn care EMPLOYEES who performed illegal pesticide applications have reached $20,000 to $22,500.  ( See list below. ) 

 

No one in Ontario wants to live in a society where fines are arbitrarily & horrifically imposed by prejudiced anti-pesticide business-hating Liberal government officials. 

 

 

 

List of violator-lawn-care-businesses in Ontario   

 

 

1341730 Ontario Inc

 

Big Green Property Services

 

Blackburn, Douglas B

 

Brodies Ltd

 

Domotor, Joseph

 

Great Lakes Lawn Care Inc

 

Greens-Keeper

 

Irving, Michael S

 

Lawn Care With A Difference

 

Nutri-Lawn Kingston

 

 

 

List of violator-lawn-care-employees in Ontario   

 

 

Perna, Patrick

 

Shiestel, Kenneth

 

 

 

Explore the following links   

 

 

Violating Provincial Law In Ontario — Horrific Fines Against Lawn Care Companies In Ontario — The Complete Media Library Of Horrific Fines LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/horrific-arbitrary-stunningly-debilitating-fines/

 

 

Violating Provincial Law In Ontario — Horrific Fines Against Lawn Care Companies — The Complete Media History Of Violations LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/violations-the-complete-media-history/

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Bad-Boys In The Lawn Care Industry

 

What You Gonna Do When They Come For You 

 

 

Why Bother With Legal Advertising
When You Can Lie & Cheat With Fraudulent
Claims & Illegal
Knock-Offs ?!?!

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

The professional lawn care industry has some businesses that are acting like « bad-boys ». 

 

Because of prohibitions against conventional pest control products used in the urban landscape, lawn care businesses have been forced, unfairly, to rely on inferior and costly green alternative pesticides like Fiesta Herbicide. 

 

Because of Fiesta’s need for an exorbitant number repeat applications, as well as its stunningly high cost, lawn care businesses have been forced to resort to their own concoctions of low-cost fertilizer-grade agricultural iron equivalent knock-offs, which is illegal under federal law. 

 

Moreover, these businesses have sought public acceptance of Fiesta by advertising that it is a « natural » and⁄or an « organic » product, which is also illegal under federal law. 

 

Since 2012, lawn care businesses have received warnings from the federal government, as well as from the manufacturer of Fiesta, to desist from these activities. 

 

And yet, several businesses have ignored these warnings, and have acted like « bad-boys ». 

 

In 2017, two lawn care businesses emerged as recent examples of « bad-boys ».  ( See list below. )   

 

With these and other lawn care businesses, observers have wondered if a continuous culture of deception has been developing since 2009, when prohibition was imposed in provinces like Ontario. 

 

Observers have also asked    why bother with legal advertising when you can lie & cheat with fraudulent claims and illegal products ?!?! 

 

In fact, very candid and unbelievable public disclosures have confirmed a wide-spread and flagrant disregard of pesticide laws. 

 

Trade associations must VIGOROUSLY EMBARK on a massive campaign to CLEAN-UP violator-lawn-care-businesses. 

 

Will ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS be necessary against lawn care businesses that violate federal pesticide laws ?!?! 

 

 

 

List of violator-lawn-care-businesses with illegal-advertising   

 

 

Nutri-Lawn

 

LawnSavers

 

 

 

Explore the following link   

 

 

Violating Federal Law — Fiesta Herbicide — Advertising Using The Terms Natural & Organic LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2017/05/03/violating-federal-law-fiesta-herbicide-advertising-using-the-terms-natural-organic-2017-05-03/

 

 

Violating Federal Law In The Lawn Care Industry — Fiesta Herbicide Vs Knock-Offs — Illegal Use Of Concoctions LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Force-Of-Nature-VIOLATING-Federal-Law-2012-04-04-Fiesta-Herbicide-Knock-Offs-Fraudulent-Illegal-pdf-300-dpi.pdf

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Bad-Boys Of Audubon Golf

 

 

Certified-Members Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf Lie & Cheat About Licensing & Complying With BC’s Amended IPM Regulations

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

A British Columbia Ministry Of Environment report has indicated that the majority of golf courses are MASSIVELY VIOLATING provincial pesticide laws and are OVERWHELMINGLY NON-COMPLIANT with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations. 

 

Surprisingly, 80 per cent of the golf courses that were certified-members of « The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf » were either NON-LICENSED, OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE, or both.  ( See list below. ) 

 

These hypocritical golf courses allege doing the right thing by being much more environmentally-aware and environmentally-conscious than non-members. 

 

Not so long ago, the golf industry was viewed as using too much water, and too many chemicals. 

 

Now, they are viewed as VIOLATING pesticide laws. 

 

Golf courses were NOT seen as environmentally-friendly. 

 

Now, they are seen as ILLEGAL. 

 

The golf industry has evolved into being a much more environmentally-aware and environmentally-conscious. 

 

Really ?!?! 

 

Audubon International is willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with the golf industry, despite indications that MOST certified-member-clubs of Audubon are VIOLATING pesticide laws. 

 

Of the thousands of golf courses across Canada, a mere 74 ( out of 2400 ) have been certified by « The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf », as of 2018. 

 

Are most certified-member-clubs VIOLATING pesticide laws ?!?! 

 

In BC, 80 per cent of certified-members are either NON-LICENSED, OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE, or both. 

 

« The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf » is supposedly designed to continue the environmental improvement that golf is going through, and to provide a way for the golf industry, the non-playing public, and golfers, to see how they are doing. 

 

But NOT if most certified-member-clubs VIOLATE pesticide laws. 

 

Are there business benefits to be realized with Audubon ?!?! 

 

A certified-member-club can use the program in their marketing to set themselves apart from their competition, but NOT if they VIOLATE pesticide laws. 

 

Private clubs that are certified-members can instill a sense of ownership among the members as well as a sense of camaraderie among the employees, but NOT if they VIOLATE pesticide laws. 

 

The main benefit of « The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf » MAY be doing the right thing.  [ ?!?! ] 

 

Nonetheless, Audubon must VIGOROUSLY EMBARK on a massive campaign to CLEAN-UP violator-members. 

 

 

 

List of BC Audubon-certified violator-golf-courses   

 

 

Gleneagles Golf Course

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out Of Compliance

 

Certified Member-Club Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf   https://wp.me/p1jq40-ctq  

 

Deserves Expulsion From WCTA & CGSA Trade Associations ?!?!

 

 

Langara Golf Course    Vancouver Parks Board

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out Of Compliance

 

Certified Member-Club Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf   https://wp.me/p1jq40-ctq  

 

Deserves Expulsion From WCTA & CGSA Trade Associations ?!?!

 

 

Point Grey Golf & Country Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Non-Licensed & Out Of Compliance

 

Certified Member-Club Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf   https://wp.me/p1jq40-ctq  

 

Deserves Expulsion From WCTA & CGSA Trade Associations ?!?!

 

 

Whistler Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out Of Compliance

 

Certified Member-Club Of The Audubon Co-Operative Sanctuary Program For Golf   https://wp.me/p1jq40-ctq  

 

Deserves Expulsion From WCTA & CGSA Trade Associations ?!?! 

 

 

 

Explore the following links   

 

 

Audubon Golf Clubs In Canada LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2018/12/21/positive-waves-the-audubon-co-operative-sanctuary-program-for-golf-certified-member-clubs-in-canada-negative-waves-from-activist-superintendents-2018-12-00/

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Bad Integrated Pest Management

 

 

 

IPM Is #@!!% Nonsense & Does Not Work

 

IPM Is Inappropriate For The Golf Industry

 

The Pesticide-Free-Version Of IPM Will Not Control
Damaging Pest Populations To An Acceptable Level

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

Sadly, government officials in British Columbia purport that there are strong and ingrained IPM practices throughout the golf industry. 

 

This is clearly FALSE since IPM is #@!!% nonsense and DOES NOT WORK. 

 

Overall, the pesticide-free-version of IPM does NOT control damaging pest populations to an acceptable level in established turf. 

 

IPM is INAPPROPRIATE for the golf industry, and is NOT based on scientific research. 

 

Golf course superintendents are expected to follow maintenance protocols and performance standards which are based upon REAL scientific research. 

 

These protocols and performance standards must NOT involve the use of failed, unproven, and incorrect doctrines that DO NOT WORK, such as the ineffective practices of IPM    which threaten the golf courses’ high-quality playing conditions and aesthetics. 

 

Trade association leaders and government officials falsely allege that IPM works, and can be used to successfully to manage golf courses. 

 

They are WRONG ! 

 

They will also allege that the best way to reduce pesticide usage is through the use of IPM. 

 

This is FALSE ! 

 

They will further allege that IPM will appease golf-hating environmental-fanatжcs. 

 

This is NOT TRUE ! 

 

The golf industry must CEASE focusing on the ineffective practices of IPM as the solution to environmental concerns or public affairs problems. 

 

The golf industry must VIGOROUSLY EMBARK on a massive public relations campaign to discredit IPM, declaring it as a DISMAL FAILURE. 

 

 

 

Explore the following links   

 

 

Failure Of IPM — #@!!% IPM Nonsense LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/failure-of-integrated-pest-management/

 

 

Provides No Benefits — Least Toxic Pesticides Applied As A Last Resort LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2012/11/20/integrated-pest-management-least-toxic-pesticides-applied-as-a-last-resort-2012-11-12/

 

 

CGSA Recommends Minimizing Inputs Through The Use Of IPM Protocols LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Force-Of-Nature-Golf-2010-02-15-Collision-Course-CGSA-Response-to-British-Columbia-Prohibition-Part-2-pdf-300-dpi.pdf

 

 

The Confessions Of An Activist-Superintendent — IPM Does Not Work LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2018/12/09/attacks-against-the-golf-industry-the-confessions-of-an-activist-superintendent-failure-to-provide-paying-golf-customers-with-high-quality-playing-conditions-aesthetics-2018-12-02/

 

 

Prohibitions Rely On False-Facts Regarding The Effectiveness Of IPM — British Columbia LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2017/02/09/municipal-prohibition-failures-in-british-columbia-part-3-of-12-reasons-for-failures-catastrophic-carnage-false-facts-2017-02-09/

 

 

IPM Does Not Excuse The Use Of Illegal Concoctions LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/violating-federal-law/

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

Bad-Boy Activists In The Golf Industry

 

 

« Activist-Superintendents » Lie & Cheat About
Complying With BC’s Amended IPM Regulations

 

 

 

Summary 

 

 

A British Columbia Ministry Of Environment report has indicated that the majority of golf courses are MASSIVELY VIOLATING provincial pesticide laws and are OVERWHELMINGLY NON-COMPLIANT with BC’s Amended IPM Regulations. 

 

Surprisingly, 80 per cent of the golf courses that are managed by so-called « activist-superintendents » are OUT-OF-COMPLIANCE with the Amended IPM Regulations, but ALL were LICENCED.  ( See list below. ) 

 

These hypocritical activists needlessly alarm and enrage the public by spreading highly-inaccurate pesticide-hating propaganda.  

 

Trade association leaders fail to comprehend the threats posed by « activist-superintendents ». 

 

British Columbia is the nation’s birth-place for several of these activists. 

 

Many observers believe that « activist-superintendents » represent the greatest threats to the golf industry today. 

 

« Activist-superintendents » needlessly alarm and enrage the public by spreading highly-inaccurate pesticide-hating propaganda. 

 

They adopt the false doctrine that the use of conventional pesticides is a harmful practice    this may also be viewed as an attack against the golf industry. 

 

The golf industry must VIGOROUSLY EMBARK on a massive public relations campaign to DISCREDIT « activist-superintendents ». 

 

 

 

List of golf courses operated by violator-activist-superintendents   

 

 

Blue Ocean Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Operated By « Activist-Superintendent »  https://wp.me/p1jq40-bxv  

 

Deserves Expulsion From WCTA & CGSA Trade Associations ?!?!

 

 

Sunshine Coast Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Operated By « Activist-Superintendent »   https://wp.me/p1jq40-bxv  

 

Deserves Expulsion From WCTA & CGSA Trade Associations ?!?!

 

 

Pender Harbour Golf Club Society

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Operated By « Activist-Superintendent »  https://wp.me/p1jq40-bxv  

 

Deserves Expulsion From WCTA & CGSA Trade Associations ?!?!

 

 

Sunshine Coast Golf Club

 

Violates Provincial Pesticide Laws

 

Licensed But Out-Of-Compliance

 

Operated By « Activist-Superintendent »   https://wp.me/p1jq40-bxv  

 

Deserves Expulsion From WCTA & CGSA Trade Associations ?!?!

 

 

 

Explore the following links   

 

 

Snowflake Nonsense From Activist-Superintendents — Critical Incident Stress & Mental Health Of Superintendents LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2019/02/15/snowflake-statements-turf-hacker-transcript-on-the-critical-incident-stress-mental-health-of-golf-course-superintendents-failure-to-provide-paying-golf-customers-with-high-quality-pl/

 

 

Activist-Superintendents On The Sunshine Coast LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2018/03/09/lying-sacks-of-cr%d0%b6p-who-betray-the-golf-industry-lunat%d0%b6c-activist-superintendents-managers-on-the-sunshine-coast-in-british-columbia-2018-02-22/

 

 

Activist-Superintendents In The District Of Saanich LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2018/02/20/municipal-prohibition-failures-in-saanich-politically-correct-rubbish-multiple-false-pretexts-inconsistent-unfair-exception-statuses-2018-02-20/

 

 

Turf Hacker, Activist-Golf-Course-Superintendent LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/turf-hacker/

 

 

 

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Background Information

 

More About The Golf Industry

 

 

 

Explore the following links   

 

 

Violating Federal Law — Lying & Cheating With Pest Control Products LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/violating-federal-law/

 

 

Violating Pesticide Law & Prohibition — Blitzkriegs & Terrжrism By Anti-Pesticide Nжzis LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/violating-prohibition/

 

 

Catastrophic Carnage Inflicted By Horrific & Arbitrary Fines, & Lifetime Bans LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/horrific-fines/

 

 

Conspiracy Against The Golf Industry LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/toc/golf-no-exception-status-references/

 

 

Critical Issues That Must Be Addressed By The Golf Industry … Now ! LINK

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2018/06/21/the-golf-industry-is-on-a-collision-course-the-critical-issues-that-must-be-addressed-by-the-golf-industry-now-2018-06-21/

 

 

 

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We Speak The Whole Truth About Violations
From An Independent Perspective

 

 

We are the National Organization Responding Against HUJE that conspire to destroy the Green space and other industries ( NORAHG ).  As a non-profit and independent organization, we are environmentalists who are dedicated to reporting about truth-challenged pesticide-hating fanatжcs ( HUJE ) who conspire to destroy businesses that are dependent on the use of safe and effective conventional pest control products.  We also report on the work of several highly-rated leading experts who have recognized expertise, training, and background in matters concerning pest control products, and who promote environmental realism and pesticide truths. 

 

The risk assessment of conventional pest control products indicates that they are scientifically-safe, and, when used properly, WILL NOT cause harm to children, people, animals, or the environment    there are NO harmful irreversible effects to health and environment.  Not surprisingly, enviro-fanatжcs have demonstrated that they are incapable of processing overwhelming scientific evidence.  Should we trust these fanatжcs, who conveniently ignore scientific evidence, and attempt to impose their politicized-doctrines and twisted life-style choices against our society ?!?! 

 

NORAHG was the brain-child of Mr William H Gathercole, one of the foremost turfgrass experts in the nation, and his colleagues in 1991.  Mr Gathercole is now retired, although his name continues to appear as founder.  We dare to defy the pesticide-hating fanatжcs by exploring the whole truth from an independent perspective on The Pesticide Truths Web-Site      http://pesticidetruths.com/   If you wish to receive free reports on issues that concern you, please contact us at      force.of.de.nature@gmail.com   WILLIAM H GATHERCOLE AND NORAH G  

 

 

Explore the following links 

 

 

With A Scheer Conservative Victory In The 2019

Canadian Federal Election, There Will Be NO

National Prohibition Against Pest Control Products

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2017/06/02/the-industry-must-support-scheers-conservatives-now-the-library-of-national-prohibition-conspiracies-2017-05-27/

 

 

The Fanatжcal Trudeau Liberal

Government Is Bat-Shжt Crazy

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2017/06/08/enviro-terr%D0%B6r-never-ends-fanat%D0%B6cal-trudeau-liberal-government-is-bat-sh%D0%B6t-crazy-the-suzuki-alliance-golf-industry-the-library-of-terr%D0%B6rism-that-will/

 

 

The Trump Administration Ends

The US EPA’s Reigns Of Terrжr

 

http://pesticidetruths.com/2017/07/02/u-s-a-the-era-of-trump-dismantling-the-alarmism-industry-the-end-of-u-s-agencies-reigns-of-terr%d0%b6r-environmental-protection-agency-epa-drain-the-swamp/

 

 

If You Do Not Vote Conservative, Then

You Are A Pitiful Fool & An Imbecile

 

 

 

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