Fiesta Herbicide … DISMAL FAILURE !

A Report On The Dismal Failures Of
Fiesta Green Alternative Herbicide

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Green Alternative Pesticides Are Bogus & Dismal Failures

It Is Impossible For Home-Owners & Professionals
To Keep Their Properties Safe, Attractive, & Pest-Free
By Using So-Called Green Alternative Pesticides

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Also explore the following links …

Edmonton Failure With Fiesta

Manitoba Pesticide Ban & Corruption With Fiesta

Manitoba Official Mackintosh & Corruption With Fiesta

Manitoba Government Officials & Corruption With Fiesta

The Complete Media Library On Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta Cannot Be Used To Validate Prohibition

Failure Of Fiesta — Give Us A Product That Works

Prohibitions Rely On False-Facts About Fiesta

Fiesta Is Overwhelmingly Condemned

Weed Man Results With Fiesta

Conspiracy, Profit, & Betrayal With Fiesta

Bad Boys That Violate Federal Law With Fiesta

Violating Law With Fiesta & Ontario Trade Assn

Fiesta Does Not Work Effectively

Exorbitant Repeat Applications With Fiesta

Fiesta Highlights & Re-Direct Links

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General Description Of Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta is a so-called Green Alternative Product to three-way phenoxy turf herbicides, such as Killex, that contain the active ingredient 2,4-D.

Fiesta contains 4.43 per cent iron ( Fe ) present as FeHEDTA, a chelated iron.

It is NOT a « natural » or an « organic » product .

Professional Lawn Care Companies that have employed these inaccurate terms in their advertising campaigns have been instructed by Health Canada to DESIST.

There appear to be SEVERAL MAJOR NEGATIVES to Fiesta Herbicide when compared with the conventional weed control products, such as 2,4–D, mecoprop, and dicamba.

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Efficacy Of Fiesta Herbicide

Perhaps the most important difference is that, in order to be effective, MUCH LARGER AMOUNTS of actual product are required to get control of weed species than with the old 2,4–D products.

Fiesta may be ALMOST TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE on many weed species, and SLIGHTLY EFFECTIVE on DANDELION and BLACK MEDICK.

In many cases, TOP-GROWTH IS SUPPRESSED within a few days after application, but ROOTS REMAIN INTACT, which explains the RAPID RE-GROWTH after a Fiesta application.

Weed species such as Clover, Broad & Narrow-Leaved Plantain, Chicory, Ground Ivy, Mallow, Oxalis, and Thistle RESPOND TO APPLICATION WITH MINOR DAMAGE ONLY, AND RECOVER RAPIDLY, even when the label rate is DOUBLED.

Many weed species recover from an application of Fiesta WITHIN TWO WEEKS.

Consequently, AT LEAST THREE SUCCESSIVE APPLICATIONS will likely be necessary in most situations.

Unfortunately, three or more applications are NOT permitted by the label, which allows a maximum limit of TWO APPLICATIONS PER SEASON with no less than four weeks between applications.

At first, in 2009, Government Officials at the University of Guelph claimed that ONLY ONE application was required.

In 2010, Government Officials said TWO applications were required.

In 2011, Government Officials said THREE applications are required.

In fact, adequate broad-leaved weed control with Fiesta may only be achieved with an EXORBITANT 6 TO 8 APPLICATIONS PER SEASON.

Unfortunately, the Fiesta label allows a MAXIMUM LIMIT OF TWO APPLICATIONS PER SEASON.

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Internet Forum Comments Concerning Fiesta

2010 – 2011

The vast majority of users OVERWHELMINGLY CONDEMN Fiesta, hence, the MAJOR REASON for the DOOMING of the Professional Lawn Care Industry that ENTIRELY DEPENDED upon its success.

The DEVASTATION of the Professional Lawn Care Industry in provinces like Ontario was EXTENSIVE because there were NO valid economical alternatives to replace the prohibited products.

Here are excerpts from the Internet Forum Comments  ―

   Big mistake !

   Does not work

   Doesn’t kill anything listed on the bottle

•   Doesn’t kill anything, period

   Going to each weed takes too long

   I can’t afford to buy something that won’t do what it says

   I DO NOT recommend this product

   I had no success with this product

   I want a refund

   I wasted 100 bucks  …  doesn’t work

   I wish this product worked for the price I paid for it

   I would never recommend it to anyone

   I wouldn’t recommend this product to anyone

•   I’ve actually heard quite a few complaints about this product

   I’ve been going through so much Fiesta

   It didn’t seem to make a difference

   It managed to get rid of the clover

   It seemed to kill the weed it was sprayed on but another weed started growing in the middle of the black spot

   It works fabulous

   It works great

   It works on dandelions, clover and moss

   Mediocre results

   Pricey considering how much you need to use

   Product seems not to work at all

   Recommended : No

   Snake oil

   Spot spraying is a pain

•   The dandelions I sprayed on last week are TOAST

   The price is too high

   There was no change

   What a waste of money

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Cost Of Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta is STUNNINGLY MORE EXPENSIVE than conventional pest control products.

The cost of an application of Fiesta may range from 13 TO 26 DOLLARS per 1000 square feet.

This represents a cost that is 31 TO 62 TIMES HIGHER THAN KILLEX, a three-way phenoxy herbicide used for conventional broad-leaved weed control.

The material cost of Fiesta may range from 50 to 100 DOLLARS per average 4000-square-foot lawn, depending upon the application rate.

Consequently, Professional Lawn Care businesses have had to DOUBLE or TRIPLE the customer cost of an application of weed control.

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Use Of Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta may be better suited for LIMITED SPOT APPLICATIONS in Professional Lawn Care programs because of its STAGGERING COST, and LACK OF AVAILABILITY in the market-place.

It certainly CANNOT BE A MAJOR EFFECTIVE COMPONENT in a weed control program.

Problems with supply and cost have forced Professional Lawn Care companies to UNWISELY SELECT THE LOWEST RECOMMENDED RATE OF APPLICATION, WHICH IS LESS EFFECTIVE.

Some companies have even resorted to the use of FERTILIZER-GRADE sources of iron.

Some companies have even resorted to the use of these KNOCK-OFFS, which is ILLEGAL under Federal Law.

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Input With Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta requires EXTREMELY-HIGH-INPUTS OF ACTIVE INGREDIENT ( a.i. ) when compared to conventional pest control products.

The exceedingly high a.i. rate of Fiesta seems to fly in the face of the desired environmentalist objective of reducing the amount of active ingredient being applied in pest control product programs.

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Skin Exposure To Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta may be QUESTIONABLY EQUAL OR HIGHER IN PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH SKIN EXPOSURE when compared to products like Killex, a three-way phenoxy herbicide used for conventional broad-leaved weed control.

According to the Fiesta label, prolonged or frequently repeated skin contact may cause ALLERGIC REACTIONS in some individuals.

According to Health Canada, the signal words for Fiesta are « potential skin sensitizer » and « may cause skin sensitization ».

By comparison, Killex may cause severe irritation to the eyes, and irritation to the skin and mucous membranes.

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Personal Protection From Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta may require SLIGHTLY MORE PERSONAL PROTECTION for the applicator, especially the EYES.

Fiesta REQUIRES PROTECTIVE EYE-WEAR, as well as WATERPROOF GLOVES.

By comparison, Killex requires coveralls over a long-sleeved shirt, long pants, chemical-resistant gloves, socks and shoes, but NO eye-wear.

Fiesta CANNOT BE CONSIDERED SAFER when compared to conventional products like Killex.

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Toxicity Of Fiesta Herbicide

From the point-of-view of HUMAN TOXICITY, Fiesta is NOT SAFER when compared to conventional pest control products like Killex, a three-way phenoxy herbicide used for broad-leaved weed control.

BOTH Fiesta and Killex have a LOW TOXICITY, with Oral LD50 greater than 5000 mg per kg.

This value indicates that BOTH products, in their concentrated pre-diluted form, are SAFER THAN HOUSEHOLD ITEMS SUCH AS BAKING SODA, CAFFEINE, ETHANOL, and TABLE SALT.

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Health Concerns With Fiesta Herbicide

Since Fiesta contains a « metal ingredient », there will inevitably develop the same controversy that led to the demise of the fertilizer Milorganite in Canada in the 1980s and 1990s.

The « heavy metal » content of Milorganite was FALSELY ALLEGED by Anti-Pesticide Activists to lead to health problems like Lou Gehrig’s Disease.

Consequently, Milorganite was WITHDRAWN for several years.

When the use of Fiesta becomes more widespread, MALICIOUS Anti-Pesticide Activists may conjure HEALTH PROBLEMS associated with IRON  …  such as Hemochromatosis.

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Phyto-Toxicity Of Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta may have the negative side-effect of PHYTO-TOXICITY, which occurs when the application of a product can adversely affect desirable turf growth.

Predictably, since Fiesta is an iron-based product, turfgrass leaf blades may DARKEN, leading to the classic « blackening effect ».

IRON BLACKENING is caused by the oxidization of iron particles on the surface of the leaf.

This effect is non-lethal.

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Corrosion With Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta may have the negative side-effect of CORROSION.

As with all iron products, including fertilizer-grade materials, Fiesta may be CORROSIVE to certain metal parts on the sprayer used for its application.

Staining by Fiesta Herbicide

Fiesta may have the negative side-effect of STAINING NON-TARGET SURFACES.

As with all iron products, including fertilizer-grade materials, there are issues with STAINING of hard surfaces, such as white concrete and pressure-treated wood.

Such stains are extremely difficult, or nearly impossible, to remove.

Moreover, in order to avoid the staining of by-stander shoes and clothing, the Fiesta label recommends waiting until treated area has dried before re-entry.

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Prohibition Of Fiesta

On May 24th, 2011, Halifax Regional Municipality PROHIBITED products containing the active ingredient Fe HDTA, sold in the Province of Nova Scotia as Fiesta Lawn Weed Killer Solution, as well as Scotts EcoSense, and Weed-B-Gon, from its list of acceptable products by an 11 – 10 vote.

The PROHIBITION was later RESCINDED.

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Availability Of Fiesta In America

Under a new distribution agreement, the manufacturer of Fiesta Bio-Herbicide has assigned exclusive American distribution rights to Engage Agro USA.

In a media release, the manufacturer claims that the distribution agreement allows it to expand on the successful [ ?!?! ] 2010 Canadian launch of Fiesta Bio-Herbicide into the United States.

According to Engage Agro USA ―

Fiesta Turf Weed Killer is a bio-herbicide that is a great alternative [ ?!?! ] to traditional synthetic chemical weed control products like 2,4-D.

[ Wrong ! ]

Fiesta Herbicide was registered and approved for use in the Province of Ontario in April 2010, and was quickly incorporated into weed control programs  ―  NOT BECAUSE OF ITS EFFICACY, but because of an Anti-Pesticide PROHIBITION that prevented Professional Lawn Care companies from using conventional herbicides that WERE TRULY EFFECTIVE.

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Conflicts-Of-Interest

There are CONFLICTS-OF-INTEREST having investors, salesmen, distributors, and researchers of BOGUS Green Alternatives, like Fiesta and Sarritor, serving as PROMINENT-PEOPLE-OF-INFLUENCE who are responsible for making critical decisions on behalf of the entire Professional Lawn Care Industry.

The following organizations TREACHEROUSLY SUPPORT Anti-Pesticide PROHIBITION and BOGUS Green Alternatives like Fiesta Herbicide ―

   Ontario Turfgrass Research Foundation

   Guelph Turfgrass Institute ( University of Guelph )

   Ontario Horticultural Trades Association

   LandsCAPE Ontario

Consequently, these organizations are the INSTRUMENTS OF PROPAGANDA FOR ANTI-PESTICIDE PROHIBITION in the Province of Ontario.

These organizations are composed of investors, salesmen, distributors, and researchers who are DIRECTLY INVOLVED AND PROFITING FROM ANTI-PESTICIDE PROHIBITION.

They will say ANYTHING TO ADVANCE THE SALE-FOR-PROFIT OF BOGUS GREEN ALTERNATIVES LIKE FIESTA HERBICIDE.

Their DESPICABLE PARTICIPATION in the Anti-Pesticide PROHIBITION-CONSPIRACY has EXTENSIVELY DAMAGED AND DESTROYED the Professional Lawn Care Industry, ANNIHILATED most of its customers, thus ensuring that THOUSANDS of companies became WORTHLESS and on the verge of being OBLITERATED.

They BETRAYED the Modern Professional Lawn Care Industry.

They DESTROYED the Modern Professional Lawn Care Industry !

Because of these organizations, the owners, employees, and families de-pendent on Professional Lawn Care businesses faced TERRЖR, DESPAIR, and DESTITUTION.

Their TREACHEROUS SUPPORT of Anti-Pesticide PROHIBITION has also led to EXTENSIVE CARNAGE for Professional Lawn Care companies, in the form of HORRIFIC FINES and BUSINESS FAILURES.

It is IRONICAL that people employed by these organizations have retained SAFE, SECURE, WELL-PAYING ANTI-PESTICIDE JOBS … AT THE EXPENSE OF THE JOBS THEY DESTROYED IN THE PROFESSIONAL LAWN CARE INDUSTRY.

Moreover, the TREACHERY of these organizations will allow Anti-Pesticide PROHIBITION to finally SPREAD NATIONALLY, and even INTERNATIONALLY, for ALL pest control products.

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Anti-Pesticide Prohibition Propaganda About Fiesta

Pamela Charbonneau is an Anti-Pesticide Government Official, PAID-FOR-PROFIT by Ontario Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs, University of Guelph.

Charbonneau is ultimately ANSWERABLE to her ANTI-PESTICIDE MASTERS in the Government of Ontario, and she is expected to SUPPORT ALL SOCIAL POLICIES THAT IT IMPOSES.

On April 22nd, 2009, the Government of Ontario IMPOSED the NEEDLESS, SENSELESS, and MALICIOUS PROHIBITION against pest control products used by the Modern Professional Lawn Care Industry.

An Exception Status was provided to industries like golf, sports fields, specialty turf, forestry, and agriculture ― these industries employed THE VERY SAME pest control products otherwise PROHIBITED for the Modern Professional Lawn Care Industry.

The legislation was implemented despite the fact that the PROHIBITED pest control products were still FEDERALLY-LEGAL, SCIENTIFICALLY-SAFE, and PRACTICALLY-NON-TOXIC.

Since PROHIBITION, the University of Guelph has become the INSTRUMENT of Anti-Pesticide PROPAGANGA for the Government of Ontario.

ALL Government-Officials employed at the University of Guelph have been told to « toe the line ».

ALL Government-Officials MUST SUPPORT Anti-Pesticide PROHIBITION, or FACE TERMINATION from employment and SUFFER THE LOSS OF THEIR LUCRATIVE GOVERNMENT PENSION PLANS.

Consequently, Guelph Government-Officials, like Charbonneau, have been COERCED and TERRЖRIZED into PROMOTING MIS-INFORMATION about the effectiveness of Green Alternatives, like Fiesta Herbicide, that are, in fact, BOGUS.

Sadly, observers complain that University of Guelph and Charbonneau have BETRAYED the Professional Lawn Care Industry.

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Government Officials Should
Tell The Truth Or Step Down

Pamela Charbonneau was an anti-pesticide government official, paid-for-profit by Ontario Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs, University of Guelph.

Charbonneau and the University of Guelph were the instruments of anti-pesticide propaganda for the promotion of mis-information about inferior green alternative pesticides like Fiesta herbicide.

Observers were upset, because they betrayed the professional lawn care industry.

Observers claimed that Pam Charbonneau went too far.

She had indicated to fellow anti-pesticide-fanatжc Frank Rossi ( Cornell University ) that 2 to 3 applications of Fiesta were required for the control of some weeds in Ontario lawns.

At first, in 2009, Charbonneau had said only one application was required.

In 2010, Charbonneau had said two applications were required.

In 2011, Charbonneau had said three applications were required.

In fact, adequate broad-leaved weed control with Fiesta could only achieved with an exorbitant 6 to 8 applications per season.

Unfortunately, at that time, the Fiesta label allowed a maximum limit of two applications per season.

Charbonneau had also indicated to fellow fanatжc Frank Rossi ( Cornell University ) that nematodes and Sarritor were dismal failures.

Charbonneau was also a director of the Lawncare ( sic ) Commodity Group of Landscape Ontario, which supposedly represented the interests of the entire professional lawn care industry.

Landscape Ontario was a trade association that, with Charbonneau as director, conspired to impose prohibition, that included conventional herbicides with the active ingredient 2,4-D.

Landscape Ontario was a trade association, with Charbonneau as director, that also betrayed the professional lawn care industry.

At the very least, observers expected the truth from Charbonneau and the University of Guelph … especially about the use of Fiesta herbicide.

The Fiesta label said maximum two applications per season.

We know Pam, just spot-spraying, right ?!?!

Spot-spraying with Fiesta DID NOT count as an additional application.

That is how Charbonneau justified her constant mis-information.

And, there is NO fine print about spot-spraying on the Fiesta label.

Moreover, there is a spot-treatment recommendation on the Killex label, the banned three-way herbicide with 2,4-D … spot-spraying counts there.

Even with her weekly Turf Agriphone, Charbonneau provided mis-information that had become a joke for the lawn care industry.

Observers complained that Charbonneau had betrayed the industry and had abandoned everyone.

Charbonneau should have stood up, and provided the truth, NOT only about Fiesta, but about Ontario’s prohibition and its effects, or step down.

Otherwise, Charbonneau is validating prohibition, and contributing to the extensive carnage for professional lawn care businesses, in the form of horrific fines and business failures.

Because of prohibition, the devastation of the professional lawn care industry was extensive because there were NO valid economical alternatives to replace the prohibited products … including Charbonneau’s Fiesta.

When compared to conventional products like 2,4-D, virtually all green alternative pesticides have been almost totally ineffective, except under very specific circumstances.

The green alternatives, like Fiesta, have been bogus and inferior.

They were dismal failures.

Charbonneau grabbed Ontario tax-payer money and spending it on inferior university studies that resulted in zero benefits for the professional lawn care industry.

2,4-D is known to be safe and effective !

2,4-D is know to be safer and more effective than Fiesta.

Why didn’t Charbonneau point that out to the Ministry of the Environment and the Ontario Liberal government ?!?!

Dr Len Ritter, Guelph’s foremost independent expert on the safety of pest control products, was located physically mere metres away from Charbonneau’s office, and yet, she chose to ignore his expert advice on 2,4-D.

Why ?!?!

The government of Ontario was even using Dr Ritter to disprove the dangers of 2,4,5-t, a constituent of, believe or not, herbicide ( agent ) orange.

Observers believe that Charbonneau should have found a way to bring back 2,4-D, and then, she could have played all she wanted with Fiesta.

Or, better yet, she should have stepped down.

Charbonneau falsely-alleged that people in Ontario DID NOT seem to be bothered by prohibition.

What kind of alternate parallel universe did Charbonneau live in ?!?!

Well, Pam, observers were bothered …

… by both the ban and her !

Charbonneau further alleged that the professional lawn care industry had been able to remain successful despite the carnage of prohibition.

Observers reacted by commenting that Charbonneau acted as if she were either blind and deaf, or just plain stupid.

Or both.

In essence, Charbonneau lied and lied and lied and lied.

She just never stopped !

Because of prohibition in Ontario, the professional lawn care industry’s customers were annihilated and hundreds of companies became worthless.

Many companies were totally destroyed.

It was expected that, just as in the province of Quebec three years earlier, over 60 per cent of the Ontario lawn care businesses would be totally annihilated.

Because of prohibition, the owners, employees, and families dependent on professional lawn care businesses faced terrжr, despair, and destitution.

Prohibition led to the loss of revenues, business failures, bankruptcy, and unemployment.

In the province of Ontario, the professional lawn care industry lost over 500,000,000 dollars, with 8,300 to 12,500 unemployed.

In Ontario, one-company-per-week disappeared into total oblivion, thanks to pesticide-hating-fanatжcs like Pam Charbonneau.

Pam Charbonneau and other pesticide-hating-fanatжcs were perpetuating the myth that there is NO carnage in the 9|11 era of prohibition terrжr !

Observers often demanded that Charbonneau step down.

During her retirement, she can tell her children and grand-children about her legacy to the professional lawn care industry.

Charbonneau betrayed her friends, her colleagues, and the tax-paying businesses who contributed to her profitable salary and lucrative pension plan.

Charbonneau’s legacy to the professional lawn care industry has been destroyed businesses, lost jobs and hardship for people, and weakened communities.

It is ironical that Charbonneau was employed-for-profit as an enviro-fanatжc government-official, retaining her safe, secure, well-paying pension … at the expense of the jobs destroyed in the professional lawn care industry.

Observers wanted Pam to just step down and get out, forever !

Observers demanded … get off our grASS !

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The Library Of Reports
By Force Of Nature

Fiesta — Comments From Forums

Fiesta — Charbonneau — Prohibition Propaganda

Fiesta — The Library Of Reports

Fiesta — Ontario Brochure

Fiesta — Halifax Prohibition

Fiesta — Engage Agro — USA

Fiesta — Prohibited in Halifax, Nova Scotia

Fiesta — Higher Costs & Re-Growth

Fiesta — Bogus — Dandelion Images

Fiesta — FiestaJet Gun

Fiesta — Warning — Not A Natural Product

Fiesta — Bogus — Charbonneau

Fiesta — Nutri-Lawn — Market Longevity At Stake

Fiesta — A Look At 

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